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Quora:为何与印度相比,中国如此先进?有哪些事情是中国在做而印度不做的?

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Why is China so advance as compared to India? What is China doing, that India is not?

为何与印度相比,中国如此先进?有哪些事情是中国在做而印度不做的?


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Mullah Oraf Moin, Proprietor at Hind National Exports (1992-present)

They are a unified nation state. We are a Confederacy of nation's agreeing voluntarily to live in a union.

中国是一个统一的民族国家,印度是一个国家联盟,大家自愿生活在这个联盟中。


Han culture IS “Chinese culture" - u can say China is also diverse in sense they have Tibans, Manchus etc but Han are 9/10 of who you'd call Chinese.

汉文化就是“中国文化”——你可以说在某种意义上,中国的民族也是多样化的,有藏族人、满族人等等, 不过汉族占中国人口的90%。


India has no such clear cut demographic majority. Hinduism is not a centralized ideology like Islam or Christianity is. North Indian Shiva worship is radically different from South Indian Shiva worship.

印度没有哪个民族明显占多数。印度教不是一种集中的意识形态。北印度对湿婆的崇拜与南印度截然不同。


I've witnessed myself an oddball Naga Sadhu wander into a place like Yelagiri in TN, or in places near Kolimalai only to get stormed by cops for nudity etc. And up North, we associate Bhang with Lord Shiva and down South, they associate abstenance with Lord Shiva.

在印度北部,我们把大麻和湿婆神联系在一起(在印度教中,大麻是湿婆神喜爱的植物,被称作为bhang或ganja,具有特别的意义。湿婆神是毁灭之神,人们认为湿婆神通过吸食大麻来加深修行并利用他的神力创造美好的世界。),往南,人们把禁欲和湿婆神联系在一起。


A Han from Shanghai and a Hui, a subsect of Han, will come from radically different religions even but will have the same value systems.

一位来自上海的汉族人和一位回族人,虽然宗教信仰截然不同,但信奉相同的价值体系。


Value systems shape culture, religion and all that good stuff.

价值体系塑造了文化、宗教和所有美好的东西。


When an order is issued in China, 9/10 follow it and even if 1/10 is not on board, the 9/10 can drown em.

在中国,如果上面下了一道命令,90%的人会听,即使有10%的人不听,也被另外90%的人的声势所压下去。


In India , Indo Aryan would be the largest demography. Inclusive of Indo Aryan Hindus and Muslims , the total pop at most is 700 million. India's pop is 1.3 billion.

在印度,雅利安人占最多数,包括印度雅利安印度教徒和穆斯林在内,人口总数最多为7亿。印度的总人口是13亿。


If 5 guys say something in a group of 10, and another group of 2 guys oppose it, they can Marshal 3 other minority groups behind them and put up a coalition resistance.

在一个10人的小组里,有5个人提建议,2个人反对,这2个人可以叫其他3个人支持他们,组成一个联盟来对抗。


Indo Aryans are more busted up than Rocky Balboa's face in Rocky IV end in terms of unity. They are divided along Muslim Hindu.

印度雅利安人在洛奇四世结束时更团结,但他们(穆斯林,印度教徒)因信仰而分裂。


Hans don't have intra demography clash.

汉族不存在内部冲突的问题


This means orders are easier to issue and carry out as 9/10 are having same set or values so are thinking the same thing.

这意味着命令更容易执行,因为90%的人拥有相同的价值观,想法也相同。


In India, I've noticed Tamils are like ASEAN Asians in terms of sociology and how society should be run etc. Rajasthanis are closer to a Central Asian state. Etc etc.

在印度,泰米尔人和东盟的亚洲人很像,拉贾斯坦邦更接近中亚国家。


Command and control is thus much harder to achieve in India. So we do grow but at a lot slower rate which is OK.

因此,在印度要实现统一指挥和控制要困难得多。印度确实在发展,但速度要慢得多。


This also means we fall half as hard when things go bad.

这也意味着,当事情变糟时,我们的损失也会减半


We complain about WHAT level of scams? Adarsh? 2G? ha ha ha ha ha ha HA! Baby scams!

我们抱怨印度的欺诈现象严重?

哈哈哈哈哈哈! 这还是小儿科级别的!


Here is what a professional scam loooks like :)

下面才是专业水准的:







For it's industrial output, China is not as wealthy as Germany on a per capita basis cos although their vikas is 10x advanced than us due to more streamlined command and control, their scams and co ption is also 10x worst than us.

就工业产出而言,中国的人均指标没有德国高。

尽管他们比我们先进10倍,但欺诈和腐败程度也比我们严重10倍啊。


Imagine putting together some prefabricated structures on large scales , rows and rows of flats and u take a nice Arial shot pic with a DJI phantom drone….

想象一下,把一些大型预制建筑排在一起,一排排的公寓,然后用大疆幻影无人机拍一张漂亮的航拍图……



….and convince investors to be a part of “be a pioneer of the next Shanghai" dream.

....然后说服投资者争当打造“下一个上海的先驱”。


I'd laugh about this but a kanjus calculative yet honest businessman in Ambur, a Tamil Brahman, who was doing damn well in leather field and making BANK invested in 2 flats of 550 residential units each, with each unit costing “only” $50,000.

我对此一笑置之。在阿姆布尔,有一个精明而诚实的kanjus商人,他是泰米尔婆罗门,皮革生意做得有声有色,让银行投资了2栋公寓,每栋有550个单元,每个单元只要5万美元。


Got wiped clean after he found out his fate in 4 years and ended his life via cocaine overdose.

四年后,一败涂地,他认命了,吸食过量可卡因结束了自己的生命。


Poor guy.

可怜的家伙。


Not all is nice and rosy in China.

Just because China is advanced doesn't mean China is better for it's aam aadmi than India is.

在中国,并非一切都美好。

中国先进并不意味着中国比印度更先进。


Suppose investor Oraf, with $5 billion wants to pump into Chennai, and your house is standing in the way of my grand entertainment center which will give Chennai budget of $5 million a month, I can't just settle u for $50 “for the betterment of the people” whereas that's what happens in China. If state govt of TN and me gang up and cajole u to settle for $50 for your 4 crores house, within 2 days, u can sue me in high court. If u think high court was politically motivated, u can elevate it to supreme Court, who will most likely instruct me to pay something closer to 4 crores and will tell u to pack up within 30 days.

假设投资者Oraf想在金奈投50亿美元建大型娱乐中心,这个娱乐中心每个月能给金奈创收500万美元,而你的房子占了建娱乐中心的地,政府不能以“为了人民的福祉”的名义,给你50美元就让你搬走。如果泰米尔纳德邦政府和我联手哄骗你,花50美元拆迁你价值4000万卢比的房子,你可以在2天内把我告上最高法院。如果你认为高等法院出于某个动机不支持你,你可以上诉至最高法院,最高法院有可能命令我向你支付近4000万卢比,并通知你在30天内搬走。


U may think India is a minority ass kissing country but this is not it. We are just a more individual rights cherishing nation which makes us less attractive to investors.

你可能认为印度是一个奉承少数族裔的国家,但事实并非如此。我们只是一个更加珍视个体的国家,这使得我们对投资者的吸引力降低了。


Suchindranath Aiyer

China has been performing Governance after eschewing Communism.

India remains a Colonial-Communist hybrid which replaced Governance with Social Engineering, Quotas (Reservations / License) and Corruption (Extortion / Percentage) Raj in 1949. As the vested interests who hold the levers of power are the greatest beneficiaries of this dispensation, India will never change.

中国一直在励精图治,而印度仍然是殖皿煮义和sh主义的混合体。由于掌握权力杠杆的既得利益者是印度制度的最大受益者,印度永远不会改变。


Ambikesh Mishra, Behavioral Economics, International Trade

The biggest reason china is so successful and India isn’t lies in execution of projects. As China is a single party country, it’s easier for companies to get the necessary approvals from various govt departments for opening new factories or building plants.

中国如此成功而印度不成功的最大原因在于项目的执行力。中国企业开办新工厂或建厂更容易获得政府各部门的批准。


On the other hand, India is infamous for its toxic bureaucracy which takes years to give clearances for any project. It becomes major impediments for foreign players to open businesses in India.

另一方面,印度因其懒散的官僚体制而臭名昭著,任何项目的审批都需要耗上数年时间。这成为外国企业在印度开展业务的主要障碍。


Although there are many other factors as well that contribute towards the deviation of development between China and India, the single biggest factor that hindered India’s progress in attracting new businesses within the country is the difficulty in execution of the projects.

尽管有许多其他因素导致了中印发展的差距,但阻碍印度吸引新企业的最大因素是项目推进太难了。


Ranjiv Kurup, Author on History and Philosophy of the Hindu

They just have a 20 year headstart and a dic or. Ours is a noisy de acy so things take time.

他们只是领先了20年。我们是一个嘈杂的皿煮国家,做什么事都拖拖拉拉的。


Devendra Tandale, lives in India

Reforms in higher education.

高等教育改革。


Narayana Vishnu, B.E mech from The Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda (1970)

Their politicians are honest with their policies and the people support them. Here crores are spent on inaugurations with pomp and show on announced projects, as if they are doing the people a favour, 95% dont reach the dead end, and the rest 5%, with extended dead lines and objections, have the costs tribled or more. Everything is done with politics in mind, party image and marketing with names altered. They achieve and announce, we announce to achieve.

他们的政治家对他们的政策是诚实的,人民支持他们。在这里,人们在隆重的就职典礼上大张旗鼓地展示已宣布的项目,就好像他们是在帮助人民,95%的项目没有完工就废弃了,剩下的5%,加上延长的工期和反对意见,成本增加了三倍或更多。每件事都考虑到了政治,党的形象和营销,项目不断更名。他们实现然后公布,我们直接宣布实现。


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